The world is not an illusion created by the mind of man as some extreme subjectivists hold, and reality is not “co-existent” with God, as Swami Krishnananda holds, the world of man is merely a lower order evolution toward higher order Godhood. This means that the lower order of evolution is not in “bondage” to material life.
I disagree with Plato who, according to Krishnananda, believes that “by itself matter or the sense-world is quality-less, nothing; it derives values from the reality of the Ideas which give form and value to it.” Vedanta seems to agree with this and I disagree with Vedanta. I see it precisely the other way around, it is the material and supermaterial object that gives value to the Ideas.
Ideas don't range beyond the “senses,” the phenomenal world is all there is, but the phenomenal world ranges from phenomena to superphenomena or epiphenomena. It is not Plato's Ideas that activate matter, it is the superphenomenal Holy Spirit, or the Spirit-Will to Godhood, which is not better than matter, the Spirit is part of matter—being supermatter-- and It uses matter as Its vehicle to evolve to Godhood. What is real is the Object, not merely consciousness, which can only be conscious of the object which gives it “life.”
Vedanta seems to have a bit better view than Plato in thinking that “the activities of the material world are all consciously directed towards the fulfillment of the cosmic purpose of Self-realization. Matter is not an unwilling self but a willing cooperator in the grand scheme of the cosmos.” This lack of dualism, unlike Plato's dualism, seems right, even if Plato's Idealism does see a whole as being only Ideas, the opposite of our theological materialism.
I say that the Holy Spirit-Will (not the Demiurge) helps activate creation, but within the Primordial Material, then the Holy Spirit, along with natural selection and evolution, is the architect of the world, the cosmos is therefore the very body of future Godhood. The Holy Spirit does not require Plato's “World Soul” to create the cosmos, It helps create the world Itself.
Unlike Plato, the Soul and Spirit have not “forgotten” their original knowledge, but they do require evolution to go back to the Absolute Knowledge that exists within the Supreme Object, or Objects of Godhood, which the Soul and Spirit do not posses, thus they have the divine motivation to evolve to Godhood. All that we know here is merely an imperfect evolution of Absolute Knowledge, and the Absolute is "only" Absolute Consciousness, or Godhood's Mind seeing and knowing the Supreme Object and Body of Godhood-Itself.
I disagree with Plato who, according to Krishnananda, believes that “by itself matter or the sense-world is quality-less, nothing; it derives values from the reality of the Ideas which give form and value to it.” Vedanta seems to agree with this and I disagree with Vedanta. I see it precisely the other way around, it is the material and supermaterial object that gives value to the Ideas.
Ideas don't range beyond the “senses,” the phenomenal world is all there is, but the phenomenal world ranges from phenomena to superphenomena or epiphenomena. It is not Plato's Ideas that activate matter, it is the superphenomenal Holy Spirit, or the Spirit-Will to Godhood, which is not better than matter, the Spirit is part of matter—being supermatter-- and It uses matter as Its vehicle to evolve to Godhood. What is real is the Object, not merely consciousness, which can only be conscious of the object which gives it “life.”
Vedanta seems to have a bit better view than Plato in thinking that “the activities of the material world are all consciously directed towards the fulfillment of the cosmic purpose of Self-realization. Matter is not an unwilling self but a willing cooperator in the grand scheme of the cosmos.” This lack of dualism, unlike Plato's dualism, seems right, even if Plato's Idealism does see a whole as being only Ideas, the opposite of our theological materialism.
I say that the Holy Spirit-Will (not the Demiurge) helps activate creation, but within the Primordial Material, then the Holy Spirit, along with natural selection and evolution, is the architect of the world, the cosmos is therefore the very body of future Godhood. The Holy Spirit does not require Plato's “World Soul” to create the cosmos, It helps create the world Itself.
Unlike Plato, the Soul and Spirit have not “forgotten” their original knowledge, but they do require evolution to go back to the Absolute Knowledge that exists within the Supreme Object, or Objects of Godhood, which the Soul and Spirit do not posses, thus they have the divine motivation to evolve to Godhood. All that we know here is merely an imperfect evolution of Absolute Knowledge, and the Absolute is "only" Absolute Consciousness, or Godhood's Mind seeing and knowing the Supreme Object and Body of Godhood-Itself.
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